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    1. remstation

      remstation Well-Known Member

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      Hi All,

      I have been reading and researching this forum quote alot over the last month or two and have noticed lots of different opinions. Its quite difficult to figure out exactly whats right for me

      I have always been of a skinny build and started working out about two years ago and had some good gains for my ectomorphic body type and really liked people commenting on how buff i looked. This took a lot of hard work especially when it came to diet because i have never been a big eater Over the last year i had let it slip quite badly and was starting to feel small and skinny again.

      I went back to the gym for a couple of weeks and got jealous with how big my pal was looking who had been on a course of SD Matrix and decided that i would give it a go. In retrospect i think i should have gave it a couple of months of getting back up to scratch before starting a cycle but i've always been a guy to jump head first into something and worry about it later. (its the only way to live) ;-)

      I have been on SD Matrix for 2 weeks (1 cap in the morning and 1 at night) stacked with milk thistle and esto suppress and have gone from 65kgs to 69kgs and am very happy with the gains, i am looking very lean and trim and a lot of friends and people i know from the gym have commented how much i have grown.

      My diet consists of 2 eggs on oatbread toast in the morning with a shake containing 2 egss, a banana, a handful of oats and a pint of milk. I always cook somekind of homemad chicken based food either a basic curry or a tomata sauce and eat about 1kg of chicken throughout the day spread accross meals at about 11, 2 and 5 before heading to the gym before going home and having either another chicken based meal or a steak with no sauce. I normally have brown pasta or brown rice with every meal and consume a couple of pints of mile a day. I have just started using turkey instead of chicken but keeping everything else the same.

      I basically start my PCT on thursday which will be 2 1/2 weeks after i started my first cycle

      My questions i have are basically is the test DAA, milk thistle and esto supress that i have a good enough PCT or should i be looking at something else?

      Does my Diet seem ok to all of you or is it a problem that the only days i vary it are the weekend where i eat what i can when i can (i am extremely busy at work on weekends so eat sandwichs/fruit and pastas when i can but still aim for as much as possible)

      Side effects wise i have got 1 massive spot on my cheek and have been suffering from cramps in the morning which i have read taurine would stop for my next cycle in two weeks. I've felt more lathargic than normal at work sometimes but i have managed to put up with this)
       
    2. suighja

      suighja Well-Known Member

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      Sorry but you can't call milk thistle and DAA a"PCT"?

      IMO You need nolva and clomid. That's what I used after my sd cycle and i recovered quickly.
       
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      Last edited by Steuk; Today at 04:06 PM.
       
    4. remstation

      remstation Well-Known Member

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      Am i allowed to ask a good place to buy this from or is that against the rules and what dosage should i take?
       
    5. laxgoaliesrhs

      laxgoaliesrhs Well-Known Member

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      Defo need a proper pct u should of sorted it before ur cycle best way sorry cnt help u with the rest
       
    6. Canellesao

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      You'll need to get them from a local source, delivery from the states would take too long in your case...
       
    7. sehiaudop

      sehiaudop Well-Known Member

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      To get clomid and nolva try alldaychemist and search for the generic names

      Nolva = tamoxifen
      Clomid = clomiphene citrate

      Dosage wise I'm not too sure in regards to the pxt of a sd cycle, so I'll leave that bit to the guys that do know.
       
    8. fa2nzg

      fa2nzg Well-Known Member

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      I ran
      Nolva 20/20/10/10
      Clom 100/50/50

      There's a few variations for clomid though some do 300 for the first day etc.

      As for where to get it most people here use alldaychemist or unitedpharmacy. But as already said delivery takes upto 14days.
       
    9. casse

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      Cheers guys, i am a bit of a newbie but before i started i read on here that Nolva and Clomid were a little over the top for something like SD Matrix but then since then it seems most of what i have read is that SD Matrix is still quite harsh and you should be looking at Nolva and Clomid. I think i might run my SD Matrix a little longer then considering the one spot on my cheek is my only noticable side affect and order some Nolva and Clomid from the states then
       
    10. defelqy

      defelqy Well-Known Member

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      You might be able to pay express postage to get it a bit quicker, i've used allday before without any problems...
       

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